tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post4706466120995770930..comments2023-12-27T02:17:54.831-08:00Comments on Minnesota Preppers Network: Stage One, Scene TwoAPNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10846941621460730009noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-46737777721128179022009-02-22T19:16:00.000-08:002009-02-22T19:16:00.000-08:00Shy: Wow- you are a deeper thinker than you give y...Shy: <BR/>Wow- you are a deeper thinker than you give yourself credit for.<BR/>I'll add my 2 cents later. I'm tapping this out on an iPhone at the neighbor's house. I am babysitting because they are at the impound lot. Their car got towed by the generous city. They've been in line outside there about 5 hours. Another friend was also towed. Two of my old favorite bars just went out of business- or rather, the state shut them down for back taxes. How does the state think that will get them their money? <BR/><BR/>My company scared everyone on Friday, implementing a 3 phase plan to survive. Much higher deductible health plan. No 401k matching, etc. <BR/><BR/>Things do not look good here. My family expenses are too high to do enough prepping, despite my side biz repairing electronics. I think the iPhone is going.Jacob Gitteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10559764359800682222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-75350185699982263442009-02-21T19:25:00.000-08:002009-02-21T19:25:00.000-08:00Dan- you obviously are a deeper thinker than I, an...Dan- you obviously are a deeper thinker than I, and I agree whole-heartedly about the issue oriented people going belly up quickly when real issues step to the foreground. Hadn't thought about the psychology of others in my preps, just my own and obviously, I am not thinking I'll be switch-hitting after a collapse of any kind.<BR/>Yes, I can see your point about precious metals yet my feeling is it'll be quite a few years down the road before people really trust their judgment at recognizing them. Rawles, and others, are certainly right: get the basics out of the way, first. I lean more toward bullets and bandaids, then beans, in light of recent political developments :-D .<BR/>(I wish I had a bank full of $100 bills, dang ammo's going up and so is food!) Being a prepper on the 'poor side', I tend to dismiss having any kind of cash flow, and metals beyond nickels and dimes are wayyyy outside my means.<BR/>So, like you, I'll stick to tangibles for barter: wood products, some 'precious metals' in the form of lead (reloading) and a few tradesman skills I've accumalted over the years.<BR/>Thank you, also, for your letter: I have a post planned for it, although a few down the road. Got to get the basics covered first. Eats before treats, my Friend.<BR/>Amen, Barefoot. Beans will be much more valuable the first few years, IMO.<BR/>NiteWalker- thank you. We shall overcome, have no fear.<BR/>Umm, Maitreya- do you think we could sail from Cali to the Gulf, up the PapaWater and... might be a trade route :-D (I've been thinking sails a lot lately!)<BR/>Rock- thank you, always good to have encouragement.<BR/>Tom, thank you, Sir. I owe it all to Publius for it was he who got me thinking about it a bit more than I had.<BR/>God bless, All. Thank you.<BR/>ShyShy Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12708293970831678927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-11831906473323339812009-02-21T18:40:00.000-08:002009-02-21T18:40:00.000-08:00"(Just had a thought: is a society in such scenari..."(Just had a thought: is a society in such scenario going to tolerate those kind of people much longer, if at all?)"<BR/><BR/>If the balloon goes up abruptly (or maybe even not-so-abruptly), I predict that the main effect will be to literally drive about 30% of the (surviving) population insane within 24 hours. Worldviews will be obliterated, including and especially for those who have focused their worldview on very narrow, unimportant issues. PETA will cease to exist in a blink of an eye, and will no longer be a concern.<BR/><BR/>Regarding gold/silver, most of the people I've heard advocating collecting those seem to do so only AFTER you've secured your beans, bullets and band-aids. I think most people (Rawles comes to mind) are simply stating that a $100 bill is never going to be worth squat again once TSHTF. Precious metals hold their value better, and while not immdediately or directly useful, if you have everything else you need and want a way to continue to prepare, you could do worse than gold.<BR/><BR/>For my part, since I'm in MN, I tend to think that firewood and lumber will probably always maintain their value...though of course it's much harder to store and transport than precious metals. But it will always be valuable, as everybody will always need to warm themselves and build things with wood.<BR/><BR/>I'd also guess that at least in the earlygoing, fuel of pretty much any kind will be in high demand. Diesel, gasoline, propane or whatever. Hard to store, but will be solid gold for the first few years post-TEOTWAWKI.<BR/><BR/>$.02Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565391786475786128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-38926367947490003212009-02-21T18:08:00.000-08:002009-02-21T18:08:00.000-08:00Great post and how true it is that some will alway...Great post and how true it is that some will always find a way. I think sometimes we must get close to or hit bottom for the best to come out, but when that happens there will always come a way for the strong willed to survive. Very interesting read<BR/>God Bless and keep up the good work your doing getting the word out<BR/>Santawvsantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17426695488133457766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-52450107565457890402009-02-21T09:18:00.000-08:002009-02-21T09:18:00.000-08:00This is exactly what I have thought every time I r...This is exactly what I have thought every time I read "prepper" writings telling us to buy silver and gold. My family and I cannot EAT precious metals. Nor can we burn them to keep us warm on cold MN nights. I figure it is better to store up things that we can use, or that will be direct barter items. Blankets, rope, tools, food....all these things would actually be immediately useful in a barter system...barefoot gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18089017268890241495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-69777370444592104672009-02-21T03:42:00.000-08:002009-02-21T03:42:00.000-08:00Now that is getting it right. Everyone should read...Now that is getting it right. Everyone should read this because Shy has nailed it. People have always found a way and I see no reason to think they will do any differently now. Great post my friend, keep it up.nitewalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11221238903528644120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-83516291485504775922009-02-20T22:04:00.000-08:002009-02-20T22:04:00.000-08:00Sounds good. I think the bambi/PETA people will s...Sounds good. I think the bambi/PETA people will starve themselves out of the equasion in a pretty short period of time.<BR/>I'd start a trade route with ya, but I'll be on the West Coast.<BR/>Good to know food might be more practical than gold. I can find/make food easier than I can get gold. Good post.Maitreyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905210677201681381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-14224908530209462802009-02-20T16:57:00.000-08:002009-02-20T16:57:00.000-08:00I like what you are saying and couldn't agree more...I like what you are saying and couldn't agree more. Nice analysis.rock2foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00725743653878766834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9061434109947679705.post-70837553961829063042009-02-20T14:38:00.000-08:002009-02-20T14:38:00.000-08:00Pay attention everyone! Here is one very wise man...Pay attention everyone! Here is one very wise man! Thanks Shy, you really hit the nail on the head with this post!<BR/><BR/>TomAPNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10846941621460730009noreply@blogger.com